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		<title>By: SD Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.stupididea.com/2008/06/28/critical-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>SD Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Critical Mass is a bunch of misguided fools. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it was real nice to ride your bike without cars around. Good for  you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would be real nice for me to drive a car without other cars around, but you dont see me turning into a self-important moron, breaking the laws and instigating anarchy.&lt;br&gt;I am biker too, but I happen to live in the real world. There are ways to affect change, and breaking laws and forcing your way through &quot;Mob Rule&quot; is not one of them.&lt;br&gt;I submit that Critical Mass does more harm to bikers (like me) than good.&lt;br&gt;To quote a Vancouver police officer when asked by a biker who was NOT participating in CM what was going on, &quot;Well, these guys are using today to make the rest of the city hate you bikers the other 29 days out of the month too.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Motorcyclists have long had issues with cars as well. They formed A.B.A.T.E. to much success, working WITH officials and the public, not against them.&lt;br&gt;To make fun of Critical Manners shows that you are more interested in either:&lt;br&gt;1) breaking the law and being able to get away with it (which is what many of the drunken riders here in San Diego seem to be doing), or&lt;br&gt;2) Simply &quot;having a fun ride&quot; rather than participating in an action that would benefit bikers as a whole.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no need to argue against option one if you are a mature person who wishes to live in a peaceful society. And if option two is where you are coming from, then you should ask yourself why you think agitating others is acceptable for YOU to have your fun.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I find it amusing that so many blogs and website site the &quot;rude behaviour of motorists&quot;. As a biker myself, I find the exact opposite to be true.&lt;br&gt;I have never seen a car nonchalantly blow right through a red light or stop sign like I will see my fellow cyclists do on the streets of San Diego on a daily basis.&lt;br&gt;I have had motorists wave me ahead, and stop for me when clearly the car had the right of way and I was prepared to wait for them.&lt;br&gt;Yet San Diego Critical Mass has a reputation as one of the worse in terms of its treatment to the motorists that it is affecting. That is no way to win people to your cause.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am in the process of having a bright orange shirt made that reads in large letters upon its back: &quot;Critical Mass Sucks: If you ride with them, so do you.&quot; So I can wear it on my daily ride to work, so that drivers to do not mistake me with the misguided fools who participate in this travesty towards cycling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Critical Mass is a bunch of misguided fools. </p>
<p>So it was real nice to ride your bike without cars around. Good for  you.</p>
<p>It would be real nice for me to drive a car without other cars around, but you dont see me turning into a self-important moron, breaking the laws and instigating anarchy.<br />I am biker too, but I happen to live in the real world. There are ways to affect change, and breaking laws and forcing your way through &#8220;Mob Rule&#8221; is not one of them.<br />I submit that Critical Mass does more harm to bikers (like me) than good.<br />To quote a Vancouver police officer when asked by a biker who was NOT participating in CM what was going on, &#8220;Well, these guys are using today to make the rest of the city hate you bikers the other 29 days out of the month too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Motorcyclists have long had issues with cars as well. They formed A.B.A.T.E. to much success, working WITH officials and the public, not against them.<br />To make fun of Critical Manners shows that you are more interested in either:<br />1) breaking the law and being able to get away with it (which is what many of the drunken riders here in San Diego seem to be doing), or<br />2) Simply &#8220;having a fun ride&#8221; rather than participating in an action that would benefit bikers as a whole.</p>
<p>There is no need to argue against option one if you are a mature person who wishes to live in a peaceful society. And if option two is where you are coming from, then you should ask yourself why you think agitating others is acceptable for YOU to have your fun.</p>
<p>I find it amusing that so many blogs and website site the &#8220;rude behaviour of motorists&#8221;. As a biker myself, I find the exact opposite to be true.<br />I have never seen a car nonchalantly blow right through a red light or stop sign like I will see my fellow cyclists do on the streets of San Diego on a daily basis.<br />I have had motorists wave me ahead, and stop for me when clearly the car had the right of way and I was prepared to wait for them.<br />Yet San Diego Critical Mass has a reputation as one of the worse in terms of its treatment to the motorists that it is affecting. That is no way to win people to your cause.</p>
<p>I am in the process of having a bright orange shirt made that reads in large letters upon its back: &#8220;Critical Mass Sucks: If you ride with them, so do you.&#8221; So I can wear it on my daily ride to work, so that drivers to do not mistake me with the misguided fools who participate in this travesty towards cycling.</p>
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		<title>By: SD Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.stupididea.com/2008/06/28/critical-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-207</link>
		<dc:creator>SD Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Critical Mass is a bunch of misguided fools. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So it was real nice to ride your bike without cars around. Good for  you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would be real nice for me to drive a car without other cars around, but you dont see me turning into a self-important moron, breaking the laws and instigating anarchy.&lt;br&gt;I am biker too, but I happen to live in the real world. There are ways to affect change, and breaking laws and forcing your way through &quot;Mob Rule&quot; is not one of them.&lt;br&gt;I submit that Critical Mass does more harm to bikers (like me) than good.&lt;br&gt;To quote a Vancouver police officer when asked by a biker who was NOT participating in CM what was going on, &quot;Well, these guys are using today to make the rest of the city hate you bikers the other 29 days out of the month too.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Motorcyclists have long had issues with cars as well. They formed A.B.A.T.E. to much success, working WITH officials and the public, not against them.&lt;br&gt;To make fun of Critical Manners shows that you are more interested in either:&lt;br&gt;1) breaking the law and being able to get away with it (which is what many of the drunken riders here in San Diego seem to be doing), or&lt;br&gt;2) Simply &quot;having a fun ride&quot; rather than participating in an action that would benefit bikers as a whole.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no need to argue against option one if you are a mature person who wishes to live in a peaceful society. And if option two is where you are coming from, then you should ask yourself why you think agitating others is acceptable for YOU to have your fun.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I find it amusing that so many blogs and website site the &quot;rude behaviour of motorists&quot;. As a biker myself, I find the exact opposite to be true.&lt;br&gt;I have never seen a car nonchalantly blow right through a red light or stop sign like I will see my fellow cyclists do on the streets of San Diego on a daily basis.&lt;br&gt;I have had motorists wave me ahead, and stop for me when clearly the car had the right of way and I was prepared to wait for them.&lt;br&gt;Yet San Diego Critical Mass has a reputation as one of the worse in terms of its treatment to the motorists that it is affecting. That is no way to win people to your cause.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am in the process of having a bright orange shirt made that reads in large letters upon its back: &quot;Critical Mass Sucks: If you ride with them, so do you.&quot; So I can wear it on my daily ride to work, so that drivers to do not mistake me with the misguided fools who participate in this travesty towards cycling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Critical Mass is a bunch of misguided fools. </p>
<p>So it was real nice to ride your bike without cars around. Good for  you.</p>
<p>It would be real nice for me to drive a car without other cars around, but you dont see me turning into a self-important moron, breaking the laws and instigating anarchy.<br />I am biker too, but I happen to live in the real world. There are ways to affect change, and breaking laws and forcing your way through &#8220;Mob Rule&#8221; is not one of them.<br />I submit that Critical Mass does more harm to bikers (like me) than good.<br />To quote a Vancouver police officer when asked by a biker who was NOT participating in CM what was going on, &#8220;Well, these guys are using today to make the rest of the city hate you bikers the other 29 days out of the month too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Motorcyclists have long had issues with cars as well. They formed A.B.A.T.E. to much success, working WITH officials and the public, not against them.<br />To make fun of Critical Manners shows that you are more interested in either:<br />1) breaking the law and being able to get away with it (which is what many of the drunken riders here in San Diego seem to be doing), or<br />2) Simply &#8220;having a fun ride&#8221; rather than participating in an action that would benefit bikers as a whole.</p>
<p>There is no need to argue against option one if you are a mature person who wishes to live in a peaceful society. And if option two is where you are coming from, then you should ask yourself why you think agitating others is acceptable for YOU to have your fun.</p>
<p>I find it amusing that so many blogs and website site the &#8220;rude behaviour of motorists&#8221;. As a biker myself, I find the exact opposite to be true.<br />I have never seen a car nonchalantly blow right through a red light or stop sign like I will see my fellow cyclists do on the streets of San Diego on a daily basis.<br />I have had motorists wave me ahead, and stop for me when clearly the car had the right of way and I was prepared to wait for them.<br />Yet San Diego Critical Mass has a reputation as one of the worse in terms of its treatment to the motorists that it is affecting. That is no way to win people to your cause.</p>
<p>I am in the process of having a bright orange shirt made that reads in large letters upon its back: &#8220;Critical Mass Sucks: If you ride with them, so do you.&#8221; So I can wear it on my daily ride to work, so that drivers to do not mistake me with the misguided fools who participate in this travesty towards cycling.</p>
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		<title>By: hb</title>
		<link>http://www.stupididea.com/2008/06/28/critical-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>hb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 01:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, taking over the big avenues near the Mall wouldn&#039;t be that fun. My experience with 14th Street is almost uniformly negative, so telling those Virginians to shove it seems like it would be fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, taking over the big avenues near the Mall wouldn&#8217;t be that fun. My experience with 14th Street is almost uniformly negative, so telling those Virginians to shove it seems like it would be fun.</p>
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		<title>By: method</title>
		<link>http://www.stupididea.com/2008/06/28/critical-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>method</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, check it out and report back. The DC one might have a different style. 

Off the top of my head, I can&#039;t think of any awesome streets to take over in DC, although I used to have fun going down Massachusetts on the sidewalk. Bigelow is almost equivalent to riding around on the Beltway, maybe more like New York Ave coming into the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, check it out and report back. The DC one might have a different style. </p>
<p>Off the top of my head, I can&#8217;t think of any awesome streets to take over in DC, although I used to have fun going down Massachusetts on the sidewalk. Bigelow is almost equivalent to riding around on the Beltway, maybe more like New York Ave coming into the city.</p>
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		<title>By: hb</title>
		<link>http://www.stupididea.com/2008/06/28/critical-mass/comment-page-1/#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>hb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 18:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a beautiful description of what sounds like an extremely pleasant experience. I especially like the concepts of crossing guards/Tienanmen Square bicyclists, although the rear and front guards have to be pretty cool.  Looks like I&#039;ll miss the next one in DC (it&#039;s July 4), but I&#039;ll try to do the August one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a beautiful description of what sounds like an extremely pleasant experience. I especially like the concepts of crossing guards/Tienanmen Square bicyclists, although the rear and front guards have to be pretty cool.  Looks like I&#8217;ll miss the next one in DC (it&#8217;s July 4), but I&#8217;ll try to do the August one.</p>
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